Monday, March 20, 2017

Romance with Ivy Rose

Hello! I have Ivy Rose here with us today to talk about the all-dreaded task of writing romance.

Ivy was a beta reader for LDTD, and though I haven't yet had a chance to read either of her novels, I've heard that they're really good, so I'll go ahead and recommend them if you like their genres. 

Ivy Rose is an 18 year old history lover and literary enthusiast. Aside from writing, she enjoys being outdoors, eating chocolate, traveling, reading, and doing TaeKwonDo. She is the author of The Old River Road and Left to Die. Connect with her on her blogPinterestGoodreads, and Instagram.

Romance, as I said, is a tricky subject, especially when it comes to determining what level of physical intimacy you should use. Like Ivy, I used to hate romance in fiction, especially when kissing started happening. I remember, when writing Sew the first time, that it took me a full thirty minutes just to sum up the courage to write, "he leaned over and kissed her" in a scene that I later cut. 

Fast forward five years later, and I had no fewer than ten kisses over the course of LDTD, albeit through four different couples. It's an interesting balance that you have to strike. My own rule of thumb is "What is necessary to advance/show their relationship and advance the plot?" For instance, in the first draft of Kingdom, there were at least four kisses between Robin and her husband ... and then I cut all of them when I rewrote it. They weren't necessary for the plot, and their relationship stood just fine with just dialog and the occasional hug.

Now, over to Ivy. 

For some people, merely hearing the word “romance” has eyes rolling. For others, it sets hearts pounding. For others—namely the writers—it brings memories of much face-palming and head-desking.
Let's face it: plenty of things go on between couples that other people shouldn't see, whether it be a private conversation, a passionate kiss, etc. Therefore, they shouldn't go in books. Readers are smart, and a little imagination can go a long way. There is no need to be explicit about subjects that should be reserved for husbands and wives.
For years, writing romance has caused me countless headaches and ruined stories. The very idea of writing a book with romance had me gagging. Hence, I decided that the best route to take was to write romance-free books.
* cue sarcastic laughter *
Yes, well, to my thirteen-year-old brain, that sounded like the ideal solution. It was a great idea in theory, but my characters revolted. I found myself needing a way to handle their romance rather than ignore it.
But that led me back to my biggest fear—gag-worthy romances. I never read many of those in the first place, but just about everyone in this world, including myself, will admit that they have read an encounter between a couple that made them uncomfortable. Even if the couple is married, the way they show affection to one another—affection that is not “wrong”—can feel very wrong to be reading it.
On the flip side, there are those books where the couples rarely show affection to one another to the point where their lack of affection pulls you out of the story because you are too busy trying to figure out if they “go together” or not. 

As a reader, either one of these scenarios can be maddening. As a writer, it can be hard (or IMPOSSIBLE!!!) to know how much romance is appropriate to show.
So how can you know?
Each writer must examine himself or herself individually to find their ideal balance. For me personally, it has taken years of careful thought, prayerful decisions, and a lot of self-examination. Whether I be writing a romantic scene or reading a romantic scene, I ask myself this question:
Would that couple be doing/saying/behaving that way if someone was standing in the room watching them?

Think about it: do you feel uncomfortable when a couple in a book hugs? Or when a husband and wife kiss each other in greeting? Neither of those things bother me in books. Neither of them bother me in the real world.

Let’s look at some examples of well-done romance in books. This first one comes from A Penny Parcel by Avery E. Hitch. The main characters, Luke and his wife, Grace, are lying in bed. Sounds like a recipe for disaster, right? Wrong. Look how Avery Hitch handles this bedroom conversation:

“Luke rolled over….
Grace slid her hand across the sheets and reached for his. “I still love you,” she said in a painful whisper.
He gripped her hand, but said nothing. Even with her hand held tightly in his, Luke felt like everything was slipping through his fingers.”

Did that make you nervous? Uncomfortable? It didn’t bother me. Yet look at what we have—an intimate conversation in an off-limits location (for bystanders), yet nothing about that scene was uncomfortable. Would Luke and Grace have behaved differently had someone been in the room with them?
Now let’s look at a different kind of scene—one that involves kissing. (Stop rolling your eyes it does have to happen sometimes.). This is taken from a story of mine.
“She turned her head slightly to press her lips against his. Eight years of marriage still hadn’t taken away the flutter in her heart.”
Could I have described the kiss in more detail? Sure. Do I want to? Not really. Could I have described it in more detail while still keeping it appropriate (according to my personal guideline)? Probably.
What about integrating physical contact? Same rules apply. This example is taken from my first novel, The Old River Road.
“ “ Don’t worry about that,” he chided, grasping her about the waist and pulling her toward him….
Clara felt soft kisses placed on her head….
William ran his finger down her nose with a tender smile.”

How about that? I cut most of the dialogue to save time, but there you have an example of some playful banter and physical touch without making the reader feel awkward.

Here’s one massive pointer I would give anyone who wants to write romance:
Focus on the relationship, not the passion.
What does that mean? To me, it means that I strive for ways to show my readers how much my characters love each other. That can be done in so many different ways…acts of service, kind words (not necessarily flirtatious, but if you like that kind of thing, it can work), and internal thoughts admiring character qualities. And those are just a few examples. Love can be shown in so many ways. You are a writer—utilize the more subtle ways of showing love between couples, and leave what happens behind closed doors where it belongs. It is entirely possible to write a sweet romance without giving too much information.
In my own writing, I have made the decision to not write any romantic relationship that goes beyond what I would be comfortable seeing/hearing were I in the room with my characters. I have been told that the romance I write is “immature” and should be “more graphic.”
I must admit that I actually laughed when I heard that.
But you know what? I'd rather write “immature” and “un-graphic” romance that I believe is appropriate than worry about overstepping my bounds and making some readers, not to mention myself, uncomfortable.

DISCLAIMER: I do not claim to be right, nor do I claim to be an expert on the subject. I know that not everyone is going to agree with me--and that's OKAY! These are merely some of my personal convictions when it comes to writing romance. No offense intended whatsoever.


Have you thought about what guidelines you want to follow when writing romance? If so, what are they?


  1. Excellent post with a wonderful, well-thought stance on this sticky issue.
    Another factor to consider is your target audience. For 13-year-old you, the decision to write mostly-romance-free stories might be 100% right. Younger people do and should view the topic differently from older teens and adults, and when writing for them, simple story-telling without the feelings or physical aspects is appropriate. View it as a child would, and write it that way.
    For older readers, I love your guideline of what they'd do if someone were in the room. Simple and still lets you tell the story, but keeps it clean. :)
    Personally, I wasn't comfortable writing direct POV romance of any sort until after I became engaged myself. :)

    1. Thank you so much! And yes, you are absolutely right about taking into consideration who the target audience is.
      Thank you for reading!

  2. This was amazing, Ivy! Your rule of thumb about not writing it if they wouldn't do it with others around is excellent.

    I definitely take the "focus on the relationship" approach, although I've only dealt with characters that weren't yet married. Dealing with married characters is proving harder because physical romance is more appropriate. But it doesn't mean that's what is called for.

    I personally LOVE the way you write romance. It's sweet and realistic and makes the kisses and hugs feel like they actually mean something. (Again, an issue for me with married characters. :/ )

    I may have to reread your books just to get more tips on how to handle it all in Martin Crossings ;)

    Oh the things we put ourselves through as writers!!!

    1. Thanks Abi! :) You're so sweet and encouraging and I'm so glad we are able to learn from each other! :)

  3. This is a great post with some great observations.

  4. I love your guidelines! SO refreshing in the current culture of hedonism. I used to never read romances because they always had "those scenes" but in the last 3-4 years I've met several indie authors who write sweet romances, and they are fantastic stories focusing, as you mentioned, on the relationship. Once I finish my WIP I'm going to write a sweet romance. Never thought I'd say that!

    1. Good for you! I'll be looking for your name on the cover of a sweet romance! :)

  5. Great words of wisdom, Ivy! I've always enjoyed a sweet romance story, but felt weird about writing one. When you mentioned that focusing on the relationship and not the passion was key in writing romance, it really made me think. That now ranging in my mind, I believe it will help the romantic elements of my stories. So thank you for sharing!

    1. Thanks, Hannah! I'm glad it got your gears spinning and I can't wait to see what you will do! :D

  6. Wow, this was really helpful, Ivy! :)
    For me, this is a rather tough thing to figure out, as I have my own ideas about what's appropriate in real-life, and what makes me uncomfortable in stories.
    Not to mention that I'm not a *huge* romance fan anyway....
    And that's the problem of a writer, isn't? When your character get up and start doing things you never gave them the ok on.
    So when I come up to writing any sort of romance in my stories, I'm sure I'll end up cringing and driving myself crazy over it before I actually get it in there. :D
    But your post was super helpful, and has given me some great things to take into account when I do come to writing those parts. :D

    One writer who I think does a great job keeping a balance and not turning off those fans (like me) who aren't the hugest fans of romance is Wayne Thomas Batson. I really like the way he handled it in "The Door Within" (which didn't have much at all) and "The Berinfell Prophecies" (which had more, but was awesome anyway). :D

  7. Excellent post! I quite enjoyed reading it!
    My general guideline is that I write what I'm comfortable with and I write what comes naturally to the characters. I try not to force my characters into relationships, and I just kind of let them do their thing. And, as a result, I do end up focusing more on the relationship, as you said . . . that said, I have a grand total of 3.5 couples who actually admit that they're couples and haven't moved past either the "becoming aware of their feelings" stage or the "denial" stage. So not much room for passion anyway. :P

    Thanks for the awesome post!

  8. This was wonderful, Ivy!

    ~ Savannah


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